Grill Improvements

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is there a way to generate a new private key for every message?

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You'll have to manually log out after every message to do that

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It seems that the different account each time when I sign in grill.

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What is your browser? Are you using Grill in a private mode?

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are you talking about mobile or desktop experience?

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Yes, but in its current form its not user-friendly. Press-and-Hold for more options is better for user-experience

But overall grill.chat in its early states is awesome!

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On mobile, simply tap on it. On desktop, right-click on the message using your mouse or quickly double-click on the message.

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should be working. It's just one click or a hold

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This would not only increase interactions with emoji reactions as it would have a significant meaning, it would also eventually lead to more interesting/higher quality chats

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I had thought about how to take action against all the bots or fake accounts and maybe found a solution. 

It is well known that emoji reactions to messages will eventually be available. 

How about when you look at a profile and you can see statistics like when the account was created or how many reactions he has gotten in group chats? 

So you could check the authenticity of an account/user at any time without accessing private information. Since it all runs on the blockchain, I think this idea should be possible.

I had thought about how to take action against all the bots or fake accounts and maybe found a solution.

It is well known that emoji reactions to messages will eventually be available.

How about when you look at a profile and you can see statistics like when the account was created or how many...

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interesting idea. you basically proposing to analyse the social graph that totally makes sense

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but at the same time this will not protect from bot farmers

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In any case, the blockchain offers a lot of options that should be used. 

We have to create a combination of 
-privacy (data/messages that are evaluated cannot be seen by anyone)
-security (protecting the user from bots and fakes as much as possible)
-and optimal ui/ux

There must be a reasons why you want to switch to Web3 and for this we need solutions. In these points, WhatsApp (privacy) and Telegram (security) are not optimal.

In any case, the blockchain offers a lot of options that should be used.

We have to create a combination of
\-privacy (data/messages that are evaluated cannot be seen by anyone)
\-security (protecting the user from bots and fakes as much as possible)
\-and optimal ui/ux

There must be a reasons...

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True. But users could basically check profiles and their reputation 

What would also work is an automatism that determines whether a profile is a bot or not based on its activity. For example, bots send messages to multiple people very quickly. and the automatism could then classify a profile as “bot suspected” based on his altivity.

True. But users could basically check profiles and their reputation

What would also work is an automatism that determines whether a profile is a bot or not based on its activity. For example, bots send messages to multiple people very quickly. and the automatism could then classify a profile as...

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Would something like the Gitcoin passport solve the problem too?

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Sorry for the late answer. Since there is no app or push notifications yet, I don't look at grill every day. 

Answer for your question:
Gitcoin itself has a good approach but the verification points they rely on are rubbish in my opinion. 

In the far distant future, when there is an option for one-time (private) NFT passports, this process could become much easier and more trustworthy. However, the governments would also have to play along here and possibly issue passports as NFTs (possibly for a fee). This NFT could then be used as a verification and would not have to go through a long KYC process.

And the good thing is passports as NFTs cannot be faked, which should be in every state's interest.

Sorry for the late answer. Since there is no app or push notifications yet, I don't look at grill every day.

Answer for your question:
Gitcoin itself has a good approach but the verification points they rely on are rubbish in my opinion.

In the far distant future, when there is an option for...

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Or an idea for a project: A Web3 team has set itself the task of allowing users to go through a KYC process for a fee (fiat or crypto) in order to get an unique NFT for ID verifications. The NFT is then fully private and unique and nobody can see it. Then you would temporarily not need a state.

Social profiles or wallets that have verified themselves with the NFT are of course marked as having been verified.

Or an idea for a project: A Web3 team has set itself the task of allowing users to go through a KYC process for a fee (fiat or crypto) in order to get an unique NFT for ID verifications. The NFT is then fully private and unique and nobody can see it. Then you would temporarily not need a state...

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This is a Million Dollar Idea for free ☝️

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When creating groups on Grill.Chat you should get an option to only allow profiles with verification.

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Love it! It would be interesting to create a channel where messages that received donations are automatically reposted. Because this should automatically filter for more interesting and useful posts.

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Not yet. But in the future we are planing to add support for Subsocial Usernames, Kilt web3 names (w3n), and ENS

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Nice discussion! Thanks for going into detail

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Is Grill interoperable with anything else based on Subsocial in a permissionless way?
For example, could I create my own app that accesses messages posted on Grill and categorizes them and creates feeds based on these categories? Without having to be granted access or permission?

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Can there be a profile feeds which can only be accessed by fans or subscribers or with unique tokens?

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Have you considered allowing users to log in with an EVM account? It doesn't mean to run a blockchain with EVM compatibility - they just sign a msg and can use grillchat, for instance. This will increase your potential user base a lot. Maybe you are already working in that anyway...

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yes, we implemented this feature and will release in 1-2 weeks :)

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👍Awesome. Make posting emojis more easy would be good as well. Once thing at a time.😁

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There is a pull request for this on Subsocial parachain 🥳 
It will allow to put up to 4 bytes into a custom reaction
https://github.com/dappforce/subsocial-parachain/pull/209

The Subsocial parachain, built with the Substrate framework, provides the blockspace and social primitives needed to build a decentralized social graph. - Custom Reaction by TarekkMA · Pull Request #209 · dappforce/subsocial-parachain

Custom Reaction by TarekkMA · Pull Request #209 · dappforce/subsocial-parachain

There is a pull request for this on Subsocial parachain 🥳
It will allow to put up to 4 bytes into a custom reaction
https://github.com/dappforce/subsocial-parachain/pull/209

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But we believe that the main priority should be adding more web3 native features to Grill such as recurring payments in crypto, embedding and selling NFTs right in chat rooms, using ENS and other blockchain-powered usernames/domain-names for your Grill/Subsocial profile, etc.

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It is possible, but requires some form of encryption or something, which I think adds significant complexity

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Of course, everything is open and accessible here

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Interesting idea! An NFT with which one can get access to certain content or chat groups would be interesting. For communities forming around artists, musicians, technical projects with multiple members, DAOs etc.

This would be an interesting decentralized alternative to Discord. It could even compete by being more interoperable with web3 tools and allowing anyone to build on top of it in a permissionless way (e.g. allowing seamless integration of NFTs to get access or privileges, allowing interaction with smart contracts through chatbots). Many possibilities.

Interesting idea! An NFT with which one can get access to certain content or chat groups would be interesting. For communities forming around artists, musicians, technical projects with multiple members, DAOs etc.

This would be an interesting decentralized alternative to Discord. It could even...

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When I connected my wallet one of my ENS names was randomly chosen. I should be able to choose which one I want to be linked and used.

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Sure, totally makes sense. we can add an option to choose a preferred ENS in the next releases of Grill

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They called me Nasty Rat, but I'm no more that

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We are working on a Google Chrome extension for Grill

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This functionality is apparently already being worked on for www.frentube.xyz , which is also based on Subsocial. There is a button for tipping below each video, where you can tip the creator with SUBs. Would be nice to have this for posts too.

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It will allow people to comment on any web page using Grill

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How about chats which are read only if you don't have a certain NFT? In fact am thinking of fellowship rooms...

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Good idea! It will require some efforts for implementing it

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Can you expand your thoughts on how do you imagine this NFT gated chats?

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Don't know if this has alrady been proposed somewhere but I think it would be very cool to be able to send micropayments to the author of a message on Grill. This option could be embedded in the same list as "Reply", "Copy Text" etc. when you right-click on a message. This would incentivize posting higher-quality messages because helpful messages are more likely to be rewarded. The micropayments should default to a small amount that is small enough to not hurt / discourage the sender but also big enough to be meaniungful if a couple of micropayments are made (e.g. 0.05 DOT or  0.1 DOT). This should be possible if one can add a wallet addres to one's Grill profile to which these micropayments are automatically sent. 

There could even be a channel where messages / posts that received micropayments are automatically shown / re-posted (again with he functionality of being able to send micropayments to the original author). This channel would then contain more meaningful posts with more signal and less noise, since  posts that do not provide value to the reader are much less likely to receive micropayments.

Afaik, something like this exists also on Nostr and the community calls these micropayments "zaps". But it would be awesome to have this on Grill or somewhere else based on Subsocial.

Don't know if this has alrady been proposed somewhere but I think it would be very cool to be able to send micropayments to the author of a message on Grill. This option could be embedded in the same list as "Reply", "Copy Text" etc. when you right-click on a message. This would incentivize...

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Btw guys, for now you can use ENS usernames and avatars instead of random names

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also customization options like color backgrounds, text size

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Yes, possible.. but maybe not so huge priority at this very moment

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Would make more sense to have support for more web3 features first?

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you are like my sister all mails check
Of course I review my emails but only important ones I read them 😅

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I don't know if this is the right place.
Do you know why I can't see my photo or my ENS from the "grill"?

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Ok I just understood but actually surprising

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https://info.etherscan.com/domain-names-on-etherscan/

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Grill: This is a beta and as such I am sure there are improvements to be made. But my message is :  I am impressed! this can and will be a discord replacement for w3 entusiasts and others to follow! keep up the good work!

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I can post messages on Grill from my mobile and my desktop browser. But when I use the  app on my iPhone that was added by tapping "Add to Home Screen" in Safari, the messages I post never get posted. The second tick that is usually shown after you send a message is never shown when I post a message from there. 
Does anyone else have this problem?

I can post messages on Grill from my mobile and my desktop browser. But when I use the  app on my iPhone that was added by tapping "Add to Home Screen" in Safari, the messages I post never get posted. The second tick that is usually shown after you send a message is never shown when I post a...

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You can get your public address by clicking on your account avatar in the top right corner

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Can you please tell us what is your Grill's public address in the app that you added from Safari? Is it the same address that you wrote the message here or you generated another address?

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On a separate note, it would be awesome to be able to format hyperlinks in Grill.
So instead of having to post the whole link in plain text (like https://grill.chat/x/grill-improvements-1316), it would be great to replace it with a clickable text that is more readable and highlight it accordingly.

Talk with others from around the world and create your own communities about any topic, utilizing our censorship-resistant blockchain and app with anonymous logins.

Grill Improvements | Grill.chat

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Here it is:
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I also tried to post the public address just now from within the app but it didn't work because the problem is still there.
Thanks for looking into this.

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You can login into your app from Safari with same address, just click here and put the Grill key into login input

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In Login modal, click on "Enter Grill secret key"

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Can we please have a dedicated chat / channel for memes related to the Polkadot ecosystem? 

Here's a nice example of a meme:
https://grill.chat/x/polkadot-proposals-1849/7405

This could make Grill more fun and attract more users. And memes like the one above can be a more entertaining way to educate people about the Polkadot ecosystem.

Message from Polkadot Proposals | Grill.chat

Can we please have a dedicated chat / channel for memes related to the Polkadot ecosystem?

Here's a nice example of a meme:
https://grill.chat/x/polkadot-proposals-1849/7405

This could make Grill more fun and attract more users. And memes like the one above can be a more entertaining way to...

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Easy:

https://grill.chat/cc/memegov-7463

If people start use it, I will link it into Polkadot hub too 😏

Post memes about OpenGov on open communication platform 

MemeGov | Grill.chat

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